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BV Naryana Mahraja met with his godcousin Syamirani/Jadurani and asked her to look into his heart and paint his transcendental form as a manjari wearing a yellow dress, is this true? And now both his and her pictures adorn the temple entrances as you walk into the temples he inherited from the previous leaders of the Gaudiya Math when they passed on.
Where can I see these painting online, is there a link? Are both Syamirani and VB naryana Mahrahja pure devotees, uttama adhikaris that they have such intimate dealings in this way?
I have also heard that Srila Bhaktisiddanta Saraswati Maharaja was a gopi. Did she happen to paint him in his gopi form? Please let me know. Thank you very much. Hare Krishna!
BV Naryana Mahraja met with his godcousin Syamirani/Jadurani and asked her to look into his heart and paint his transcendental form as a manjari wearing a yellow dress, is this true? And now both his and her pictures adorn the temple entrances as you walk into the temples he inherited from the previous leaders of the Gaudiya Math when they passed on.
Where can I see these painting online, is there a link? Are both Syamirani and VB naryana Mahrahja pure devotees, uttama adhikaris that they have such intimate dealings in this way?
I have also heard that Srila Bhaktisiddanta Saraswati Maharaja was a gopi. Did she happen to paint him in his gopi form? Please let me know. Thank you very much. Hare Krishna!
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Re: Narayana Maharaja's manjari siddhi deha?
Sun, August 27, 2006 - 8:53 PMDear Bhakta,
All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to Sri Sri Radha Vinode Bihariji.
Did you ever play the game in school where one person repeats a story to another by whispering it in their ear, then that person tells the next person and so on until everyone in the room is involved and the last person tells the story out loud then the first person reads it also?
Jivas can not be trusted to relay stories exactly as they are told, as Maya gets in the way.
To know about Gurudeva's part of the paintings see: www.bhaktiart.net/
To know the full story about Syamarani see: www.bhaktiart.net/
Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja shows us great mercy daily,
living the solution by showing us by his actions how to worship Radha and Krsna.
Haribol
Syama
iLoveMyGuru.org/
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Re: Narayana Maharaja's manjari siddhi deha?
Mon, August 28, 2006 - 5:01 AMSyama Prabhu,
Pamho.
Thank you for your very timely response. I went to the Ilovemy guru site and was very confused by the disciplic sucession therein. Also I went to the bhaktisite of Jadurani's and did not find the painting. Can you get me a link online for the painting? There must be one available.
Why all the gurus in the disciplic sucession of Narayana Maharaja? Thank you -
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Re: Narayana Maharaja's manjari siddhi deha?
Mon, August 28, 2006 - 8:46 AMi have no problem with vaisnavas of any group. but i must say, that the canvassing and "recruiting" done by narayan maharaj disciples in temples (at least) in the ones i frequent is annoying. very cult like.
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Re: Narayana Maharaja's manjari siddhi deha?
Mon, August 28, 2006 - 4:24 PMI want to know about why so many gurus in the disciplic succession and I want to see the painting but I don't want to do the hours of research to find out why or how, nor do I think it is even possible. How come the painting is at the entrances to all his temples but we cannot see it online? How come he seems to have added an extra guru or two before and after his picture on the altar?
Can one of his dedicated disciples answer me? So far they don't even seem to know so how am I supposed to find out? Not by research, not by asking online, then how? Does one have to take initiation from him to find out? Even then how long afterwards will it be before the secrets are revealed? If I email a picture of myself to Jadurani/Syamarani will she be able to paint my siddha deha too? Or does one have to be fully pure before she can see our original form in Vrndavana? How can we even have a siddha deha or go back to Godhead when Narayana Maharaja said we never even with Krishna in the first place, but were just somewhere between the spiritual and material worlds in the marginal energy?
What if Narayana Maharaja isn't an uttama adhikari and is simply taking devotees away from ISKCON? I know this is a worst case scenario. Please prove that he is by letting me see the painting of him in his manjari form that he asked Syamarani to paint. I think that is what is written at her website. Then my next question will be if she can paint mine.
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Who among you will take up the challenge and tell me the answer?
Wed, August 30, 2006 - 6:17 AMWithout resorting to sending me to a website that doesn't tell it. Where can I see that painting online? Why are Gour Govinda Maharaja and Srila Prabhupada in Narayana Maharaja's disciplic succession, especially when Gour Govinda Swami comes AFTER HIM? Could it be a ploy to take their disciples away from ISKCON? If Syamarani is qualified to paint Narayana Maharaja's siddha deha, why can't she paint mine? Why won't anyone in the Gaudiya Math answer me? Is it because even they don't know the answers, but are blindly following their guru? Then at least tell me that, "Prabhu, we don't know, we are just accepting it because our guru told us. There is no logic or argument behind it.".
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Re: Who among you will take up the challenge and tell me the answer?
Sat, September 2, 2006 - 12:02 PMThere is no painting as of you speak so of course you can't see it anywhere. -
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Re: Who among you will take up the challenge and tell me the answer?
Sun, September 3, 2006 - 7:29 AMOh, thank you for your kind reply. I thought there was, must have read it wrong somewhere, after first hearing it wrong and then trying to research it. Thanks for clearing that up!
Haribol
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